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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:01 PM // 15:01   #21
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let's make the monkeys mine diamonds for us!

EVERYONE LOVES DIAMONDS!!!!
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:04 PM // 15:04   #22
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*steals some helicopters* Lets find some monkeys!
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:23 PM // 15:23   #23
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steals a huge barge and goes to africa to find them monkeys!
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:24 PM // 15:24   #24
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Kill em or tranquilize em?
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:28 PM // 15:28   #25
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tranquilize em then work em to death
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:33 PM // 15:33   #26
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I found some looks like 100 monkeys * loads bow with 25 tranquilizer arrows*
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:37 PM // 15:37   #27
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loads bow with 1 tranquilizer arrow and uses a lvl 99 multi-arrow
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:41 PM // 15:41   #28
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Meanwhile back at the diamond mine....
"Lets go you stupid monkeys I wanna see some diamonds!!"
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:42 PM // 15:42   #29
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*puts bow of drowsiness away, and takes out the whip of encouragement*
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 03:59 PM // 15:59   #30
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if you have an infinite number of monkeys they will type every possible permutation of every possible character in every possible language. that is the nature of infinity. they HAVE TO produce the works of shakespeare (or GW 2) that is randomness when applied to infinity.
If you have a proof please show me. This is one of those anecdotes that gets passed along as if it were common knowledge and truth. In fact it isn't.

Consider the infinite number of nearly, but not exactly ,works of Shakespeare. That set is infinitely bigger than the finite works of Shakespeare.

But there are an infinite number of these types of sets - each with an infinite number of members of that set - of close, but not quite works of Shakespeare.

Then there are the sets of works that are even less like Shakespeare - an infinite number, in fact, from recognizable text to complete gibberish.

Each of those sets is infinitely larger than the finite set of Shakespeare's works AND there is an infinite number of those sets.

So we're searching for a finite result in an infinite number of sets of infinite possibilities - with "only" an infinite number of tries.

It won't happen.

We apply "infinity" as a general description of boundless sets. In truth, there are many types of boundless sets - each one representing a different level of infinity.

One can begin with "normal" or "countable" numbers. [1,2,3,...]
Whole numbers just adds 0 [0,1,2,3, ....]
Intergers [....-2, -1, 0, 1, 2 ....]
Rational numbers - all numbers representable as x/y where x and y are intergers
Irrational numbers - numbers not expressable as x/y such as square root of 2 or pi

(pi is in a special subset of irrational numbers called transcendental numbers.)

"aleph" is the mathematical name for levels of infinity with Aleph-null being the set of normal numbers.

The best way I can describe Aleph-1 is the set of real numbers (which excludes numbers such as the square root of (-1) which is a non-real number).

In truth Aleph-1, in it's precise definition, depends on the type of set theory you are describing.


Clear as mud, right?

Tomorrow I'll teach you Chinese.

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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:06 PM // 16:06   #31
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a confuddling statement Xue Yi Liang

i will have to meditate over this....

(barely controls laughter)
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:14 PM // 16:14   #32
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Xue's rule #1.

If it's a "serious" thread post "ridiculous."
If it's a "ridiculous" thread post "serious."
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:22 PM // 16:22   #33
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kg's single rule

post like theres no tomorrow :P
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:30 PM // 16:30   #34
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What good are dead monkeys? Now they'll probably start monkey unions thanks to you jerks...
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:31 PM // 16:31   #35
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sell the hides and keep their fur!
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:33 PM // 16:33   #36
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better a dead monkey than one that hurls wet crap at you
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The thought of mathematics involving infinity cracks me up. Infinity is strictly an abstract concept.
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:38 PM // 16:38   #38
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infinity is a number, how hard can it be

just flip 8 ninety degrees
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:45 PM // 16:45   #39
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now. the theory is: if you take an infinite number of monkeys and have an infinite anount of time, they will eventually write the entire works of shakespear perfectly.
Given an infinite amount of time... Apeiron, my pet monkey can do what you suggest all on his own. In fact, he already has, we just haven’t gotten there yet.

He’s also a wiz at cracking passwords.
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Old Oct 07, 2005, 04:48 PM // 16:48   #40
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my monkey can salute! :P
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